According to ccl.properties, the pl Place-publication index is supposed to include 008/15-17 and 260$a. In record.abs, we have the index include all 260 fields. This patch removes the index for the whole field 260, leaving only $a (and 008/15-17).
Created attachment 22356 [details] [review] Bug 11130 Change pl Place-publication index for Marc21 According to ccl.properties, the pl Place-publication index is supposed to include 008/15-17 and 260$a. In record.abs, we have the index include all 260 fields. This patch removes the index for the whole field 260, leaving only $a (and 008/15-17).
(In reply to Mirko Tietgen from comment #0) > According to ccl.properties, the pl Place-publication index is supposed to > include 008/15-17 and 260$a. In record.abs, we have the index include all > 260 fields. This patch removes the index for the whole field 260, leaving > only $a (and 008/15-17). Maybe it is in ccl.properties, but I believe it would be a bad idea to follow it on this point ;-) 008/15-17 is a coded information about a country 260$a is a plain text information about a town The 2 information should be in different indexes. In Unimarc, we use pl for 210 (the same as 260) and Country-publication for 102$a field (if I remember well) for the country. By the way, the "pl" index is completely useless for the average user in an academic or public library, at least according to my experience. Because I've never seen a reader looking for "a book published in London", or "All the books published in Paris". I think it's more a librarian-centered information. M. Saby
(In reply to mathieu saby from comment #2) > Maybe it is in ccl.properties, but I believe it would be a bad idea to > follow it on this point ;-) > The 2 information should be in different indexes. In Unimarc, we use pl for > 210 (the same as 260) and Country-publication for 102$a field (if I remember > well) for the country. At the moment, it is 008/15-17 and ALL 260 subfields. I'm not trying to make it worse but better, but based on what is in that file. ;) And I would like to get 260$e (Place of manufacture) out of the index. But perhaps you are right, ignoring what ccl.properties says and instead setting up an index just for 260$a would be a better idea. Maybe others have an opinion on that? > By the way, the "pl" index is completely useless for the average user in an > academic or public library, at least according to my experience. Because > I've never seen a reader looking for "a book published in London", or "All > the books published in Paris". > I think it's more a librarian-centered information. We have a lot of video material and a search for »movies from $country« is very likely. »movies published in London« not so much I guess. ;D
By the way, record.abs is going to be deprecated in next version (or maybe later). So if you think that indexing is inconsistent you need to edit also the DOM configuration files. Mathieu
Created attachment 25768 [details] [review] Bug 11130 Change pl Place-publication index for Marc21 According to ccl.properties, the pl Place-publication index is supposed to include 008/15-17 and 260$a. In record.abs, we have the index include all 260 fields. This patch removes the index for the whole field 260, leaving only $a (and 008/15-17). 11130 follow-up: DOM indexing
008/15-17 is actually a bit more variable than "country". Sometimes, it's country but other times it's actually state/province (http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd008a.html). In any case, it's in a coded format, which is probably useless to all except the most hardcore human users. Good call on "pl Place-publication" being 260$a instead of the whole of 260. That said, you'll also want to include 264$a...but only when the 2nd indicator of 264 is set to 1 (http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd264.html). You have to love RDA...
(In reply to Mirko Tietgen from comment #5) > 11130 follow-up: DOM indexing Is there a follow-up coming or what do you mean by this?
(In reply to Joonas Kylmälä from comment #7) > (In reply to Mirko Tietgen from comment #5) > > 11130 follow-up: DOM indexing > > Is there a follow-up coming or what do you mean by this? It is already there. The patch includes the original one and the followup patch
I note than in UNIMARC pl Place-publication is on 210$a. There is Country-publication on UNIMARC 102$a. Should it be on 008/15-17 ? I see 044$a that could also fit.