Bug 7974 - can't create routing list in staff client
Summary: can't create routing list in staff client
Status: CLOSED WONTFIX
Alias: None
Product: Koha
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Serials (show other bugs)
Version: Main
Hardware: All All
: P5 - low major (vote)
Assignee: Colin Campbell
QA Contact: Ian Walls
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Reported: 2012-04-17 17:46 UTC by Nicole C. Engard
Modified: 2012-10-26 00:51 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

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no routing list (52.49 KB, image/png)
2012-04-17 17:51 UTC, Nicole C. Engard
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Description Nicole C. Engard 2012-04-17 17:46:35 UTC
When I'm in the staff client looking at a serial I see that there is a routing list and I can click to see who is subscribed, but can't add people to the list.  I see no way anymore to add people from the staff client to the routing list and most libraries add people this way.

See chat:

[11:24]  <nengard> i'm training on serials today and i don't see a way to add people to the routing list in 3.8 anymore … anyone know where that went?
[11:24]  <nengard> it used to be on the serial collection page
[11:24]  <nengard> i do see it under summary on the serial info page, but when I click it it doesn't let me add anyone it just says no one is on the routing list
[11:28]  * matts is now known as matts_away
[11:32]  * asaurat has quit (Quit: Leaving.)
[11:33]  <jcamins> Incidentally, I found out that Koha is guilty of not having any user-friendly Authority view on the OPAC either.
[11:34]  <jcamins> nengard: I'm not sure. I've wondered that, too. I thought I was misremembering, since I don't use routing lists much.
[11:34]  <nengard> no it used to be there
[11:34]  <nengard> and it's important that it's there
[11:34]  <nengard> most academic libraries create their own routing lists and i see no way to do that anymore
[11:35]  <nengard> i found it! 
[11:35]  <jcamins> cait might know where it is. She uses that feature, too, so surely she would've noticed it vanishing.
[11:35]  <nengard> you have to subscribe in the OPAC
[11:35]  <nengard> that's not enough - we must be able to create them ourselves
[11:36]  <nengard> there is a link for patrons on this: cgi-bin/koha/opac-serial-issues.pl?biblionumber=33593 
[11:36]  <nengard> to subscribe
[11:36]  <nengard> and that's the routing list now
[11:36]  <nengard> which is not what routing lists are used for in most libraries I've been to
[11:36]  <nengard> also there was a routing list you could print out which is what we use
[11:36]  <nengard> any idea what patch did this???
[11:37]  * wizzyrea has quit (Ping timeout: 480 seconds)
[11:38]  <jcamins> No, that's a different new feature.
[11:38]  <jcamins> cait had me test it just the other week.
[11:38]  <jcamins> That's a feature to enable patrons to subscribe to a notification in the OPAC.
[11:38]  <jcamins> Yeah, I think those are two completely different features.
[11:38]  <jcamins> I tested the patch that added the OPAC thing, but it didn't touch the staff client.
[11:38]  <jcamins> Ah-ha!
[11:38]  <jcamins> Found it.
[11:38]  <jcamins> Now how did I do that?
[11:40]  <jcamins> Okay, if I do a search I am able to add a routing list.
[11:40]  <jcamins> And then if I click through from the search, I'm able to click "Create routing list" on the left.
Comment 1 Nicole C. Engard 2012-04-17 17:51:04 UTC
Created attachment 9234 [details]
no routing list

I did a search as Jared said and do not see the routing list option here.
Comment 2 Katrin Fischer 2012-04-17 18:14:18 UTC
Hi Nicole,
I don't think it's a bug - it's a feature. Can you check that your user has permission routing and your RoutingSerials system preference is turned on? That should make the column show up.
Comment 3 Nicole C. Engard 2012-04-17 18:37:17 UTC
I'm a superlibrarian on both systems ...
Comment 4 Katrin Fischer 2012-04-17 18:45:17 UTC
And your system preference is turned on?
Comment 5 Nicole C. Engard 2012-04-17 23:16:55 UTC
Okay, there is a new preference for that that I did not know about - on upgrade it should not be set to OFF since before upgrading it was just a feature you had access to. Also you shouldn't be able to choose routing list as a notification when setting up a serial if you have the preference set to OFF - makes it very confusing to people who have been using the system for ages.
Comment 7 Katrin Fischer 2012-04-18 06:13:26 UTC
Hi Nicole, 

the system preference itself is very old, but as far as I can tell it used to only work on serials-home, that is the result table when searching for a serial. I wrote a patch to make permissions and system preference check consistent on all other pages too: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commit;h=88a2079a48867680af02eb92007eae4c95fe1fb0

I am not sure how we can make people less confused here - updating an existing system preference that used to work at least partially to another setting seems not right to me. 

The routing list notification you choose when adding a subscription is a misnamed sample notice. It is not related to the management of routing lists at all - it is necessary for sending out serial alerts for new issues. Without selecting a notification template, the link for subscribing to the serial alerts will not show up in OPAC. The notifications will also only be sent out to alert subscribers, not to users on the routling list.
Comment 8 Nicole C. Engard 2012-04-18 10:54:34 UTC
Okay, I don't have any solutions either, it was pretty confusing for a while there.