Bug 17612

Summary: Vocative version of name and surname: database and form field
Product: Koha Reporter: Michal Denar <black23>
Component: PatronsAssignee: Bugs List <koha-bugs>
Status: NEW --- QA Contact: Testopia <testopia>
Severity: enhancement    
Priority: P5 - low CC: gmcharlt, josef.moravec, kyle.m.hall, mail, rbit
Version: Main   
Hardware: All   
OS: All   
See Also: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17718
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Description Michal Denar 2016-11-11 10:00:39 UTC
Hello,
Czech (and some other languages) use vocative at names. We really need use this name form in notices and slips. So fist step:
- create place in database
- field in patron form. 

It will be optinal feature, because its special just for some languages. 

Mike
Comment 1 Michal Denar 2016-11-11 10:19:54 UTC
Hello,
Czech (and some other languages) use vocative at names. We really need use this name form in notices and slips. Second step:
- create <<borrowers.surname_vocative>>
- create <<borrowers.name_vocative>>

It will be optinal feature, because its special just for some languages. 

Any other ideas or comments?

Thanks

Mike
Comment 2 Michal Denar 2016-11-11 10:22:09 UTC
Sorry for last comment, its text for other bug :-)
Comment 3 Katrin Fischer 2017-01-07 23:17:16 UTC
Hi Mike,
I have never heard of this, can you maybe add an example so we get an idea how this looks like? Can the vocative version be generated or has it to be entered separately when the patron is registered? Thank you!
Comment 4 Radek Šiman (R-Bit Technology, s.r.o.) 2017-01-08 10:24:21 UTC
Hi Katrin,
I believe Mike will agree with my answer so here it is... Let's say I want to call Katrin Fischer in a well-formed czech letter. Please allow me to rename you as Katka Fischerová. Then I would call you as "Ahoj Katko Fischerová". My name is Radek Šiman and I would be called as "Ahoj Radku Šimane". So some simple examples include:
Mike => Miku
Michal => Michale
Karel Nový => Karle Nový
Karel Novák => Karle Nováku
And so on, and so on... There's no simple rule for it. There are to ways to solve this issue. The best one is to use a database (we have it as a free service for libraries - please see bug 17718) of *all* known firstnames and surenames to query for appropriate results or the other solution is to simply enter the right version manually in (currently missing) fields.
Comment 5 Katrin Fischer 2017-01-08 11:18:43 UTC
Hi Radek, thx for the examples, that's very interesting!